I am looking for long-time residents of the Upper West Side to answer some questions about how they think the neighborhood has changed and what they remember. Was the place called Amsterdam. Also if you remember what year the Woolworths on 79th and Broadway closed let me know. QE 2 Club 1980s Central Ave, Albany ny by AlbanyGroup Archive the Elbo Room 1963 Albany NY (1960s) by AlbanyGroup Archive 2 288 lark, albany, ny 1984 1980s by AlbanyGroup Archive 1 jb's theater albany ny by AlbanyGroup Archive ginos collage albany ny . I well remember when the wrecking ball destroyed the beautiful and historic Episcopal Church on W. 71st Street at the corner of Broadway. There were great clothes stores also on Columbus on the same street, Parachute was one. What else. In a striking sentence reflective of the fatalistic attitude of the time, she writes, Crime prevention was, of course, the Police Departments first priority, as preventive medicine was the primary concern of health administrators. And Silk Road. And I briefly lived on 85 street in the early 70s , so I was there a lot. Over the course of the next four years, 20 houses on the block would be demolished and replaced with a high school named for Louis Brandeis and a relocated elementary school. I see this constantly in the rude & dismissive behavior of folks on the street, in the new stores, especially towards the older folks. I remember Mindys and the Japanese store and Francess Hats and the Chinese Restaurant and Jays Stationary and Cake Masters and Eclairs and the Chess Room and the pet store between Columbus and Broadway on 72nd street. My building was surrounded by SROs; one on 92nd btwn Riverside and West End, one directly across the street from us and one on 92nd btwn Broadway and Amsterdam. Bring a few relatives you havent seen in a while. Great projecthope it went well or is going well. Now that the doormen from CPW no longer drink at the bar at Pizzeria Uno on Columbus & 81 (which had a cubby hole in the unfinished end where wed leave each other messages and little presents), thats one thing that Im finding difficult to nail in the neighborhood! By Craig Horowitz. This seasonal (May-October) outdoor bar has a bunch of umbrella-covered tables that might make you think youre in Madison Square Park, except for the fact that you can see the Hudson River and New Jersey. Miss all of the mom and pop shops. At the same time, 86th & Amsterdam was notorious for being crime ridden. I was even blessed to attend LaGuardia high school on 135th & Convent Avenue in its glorious Gothic, castle-like home before it moved to its prison-like building at Lincoln Center. Not everyones experience is like mine. There were loads of movie theaterstwo on one block between 96 & 97 street called Riverside and Riviera, and the Thalia, Symphony, Beacon (ALL local movie theaters), the Midtown, Loews 83rd street, the Edison, Nemo (both in the 100s) and of course, the New Yorker! Very different West Side. Yellow Rose of Texas. I lived on W 73rd b/ Columbus & CPW from 1974-1987 and saw SO many changes the gentrification got to be too much, so I moved up to 108th Street. It went badly. I am currently working on my graduate school thesis and have decided to write about how the Upper West Side has changed in my lifetime. Usually the small cities in America that never change are the ones whose best days came half a century or more ago and are now literally rotting away before your eyes, their once-handsome houses mottling, their fences akimbo, their storefronts boarded, their grass untended, their gas stations abandoned on windblown corners. After fire damage temporarily shut down the place earlier this year, e's Bar is back in business, boasting new banquettes and the . Outdoors at Noz Market. The infamous Upper East Side murder has yet to fade from public memory. I miss them! But in 1961, 84th Street was a nightmare, and something had to be done. Unfortunately, mom and pop stores have closed. Meanwhile, the working poor found themselves menaced and increasingly overwhelmed by the burgeoning welfare underclass. Carmine's - 91st Street - NYC. The Loft sounds right. I live on 80th and Columbus, and 79th and Amsterdam was the most dangerous corner in the precinct. So they are finally free of their daily captors and, like all kids, act out without thinking of who or what is around. Think about it. Sadly, the older residents are slowly dying off and being replaced by younger couples who only stay two or three years. so i guess we are 3 black kettles since i am being pretty snarky, too. For an interesting look at our neighborhood,check out the Goodbye Girl on netflix. There was a pastry cafe with tables up in a little loft where the swatch store is now on 72 and Columbus. I have been unable to confirm the closing date in my research. The 24th Precinct has about the same racial and ethnic makeup it did when Lyford published his book in 1966. The area continues to be among the nations most integrated. It would dominate news coverage in the country for weeks, if not months. Neighbors watched out for each other, and most of the people who lived there stayed for generations, and most of the stores were family-owned businesses. She shares some memories below, and asks for some of yours. We dont mean this as an insult to the land above 59th Street, but The Owls Tail is the sort of place you expect to find downtown. I remember when the first Starbucks opened on 93rd and Broadway it was around 1996-1997 while I was in collegethats when we knew that the UWS of our time was never going to be the same again. I love that my beloved UWS is a desirable place to live but NOT at the expense of those who came before, struggled, survived and created this complicated, beautiful neighborhood. I never felt unsafe in this neighborhood, however. Now Im in the 90s. There was a reason Verdi park was called Needle Park. Food City was also where I dreamt of having my first jobs first as bagger, then aspiring to cashier. Lets not forget about the orginal frozen cappuccinos on Columbus Avenue before Starbucks. Delicious, homey. Yes, Jeannine, there have been major changes in the neighborhood mostly for the better but, alas, I truly miss some of the stores that have fallen by the wayside. People have bidding wars over apartments that cost millions of dollars. Yes, it was called Amsterdams and it had great chicken, pork, beef cooked on a wall-sized rotisserie. I remember turning the corner on 71st street one day coming back from PS 89 and discovering that my whole street (71st between Columbus and CPW) had been transformed so that Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand could perform a scene from The Way We Were. Be the first to get expert restaurant recommendations for every situation right in your inbox. Explore the scintillating March 2023 issue of Commentary. I am happy that they also identify with being true upper west siders! Email me if youd like to answer some more questions about life on the UWS. The Upper West Side is a great place to live: beautiful prewar buildings, Central Park to one side and Riverside Park to the other, Zabar's.It's one of the most popular residential areas of Manhattan and it's also a hotbed for celebrities. Lost your password? Vague memory of the window and lady on 83rd Street. Residents sold their used household goods at White Elephant tables, others grilled hotdogs and popped popcorn. Find next available. Japanese. The Times described it as a block of decaying tenements packed with poor Puerto Rican and Negro families and the gathering place of drunks, narcotics addicts and sexual perverts. It soon became known as the worst block in the city. Mayor Robert Wagner announced a shock attack, an all-out war on the forces of crime, slum blight and poverty on the West Side. If you visit Hi-Life Bar and Grill on your birthday, you get the usual complimentary dessert and a t-shirt with "NY" set in a martini glass graphic. Via. The neighborhood has lost many small businesses such as delis, bodegas, pizzerias, barber shops, candy & stationery stores. I also take issue with your line that says no one in Manhattan lived above 72nd street if they could avoid it. I was born in 1963 and my parents moved to CPW and 92nd street a couple of years later. When I go back (my mom still lives in her rent control spot on 72nd and WEA) I have a real cognitive dissonance. November 24, 2013 | 1:16 PM - Updated on June 5, 2022 | 11:30 PM, Womens History: Augusta Stetson and the Church at 96th Street and Central Park West, WEST-PARK CHURCH LEADERS WIN VOTE, PLEDGE TO REVITALIZE BUILDING, WEEKLY NEWS BULLETIN: COLD SHADOWS, ANCIENT OBELISKS, A MASSIVE MENORAH, & CHRISTOPHER WALKEN, A TRIO OF JUILLIARD PERFORMANCES ON MONDAY (SPONSORED). Vin sur Vingt | Best Things to Do Upper West Side. From our award-winning Vine Burger to our Cobb Salad, Roasted Cornish Hen, Seafood and Steaks, Madison & Vine satisfies the cravings of the city's most discerning diners. I need a hot tip on a small apartment! .I could not get the police or the sanitation department to stop the airmail so I collected it. We were giving up so much of our city, Myron Magnet has written in a beautiful essay on Saul Bellows great 1970 novel of Upper West Side (and Western civilizational) decline, Mr. Sammlers Planet, and how it spoke to his experience as a neighborhood resident. Lifelong UWSer, born 1970 and raised on 81st between CPW and Columbus. Gone were the days when people indulged in a nice restaurant dinner only when traveling or celebrating a birthday or anniversary. Prohibition is a 20sthemed bar with quality live music every night. They took my empty wallet and the little folder containing the invaluable pass that afforded me free access that month to that bus line. And the new projects that rose up on the Upper West Side became breeding grounds of concentrated disorder, causing thousands of disintegrating and disintegrated families to fall under the sway of an even more destructive lawlessness easier to ignore, perhaps, precisely because it was so concentrated and because so much of what was awful went on indoors. To hell with nostalgia. Thanks! Columbia university kept the neighborhood more desirable. the block just south of where mc donalds is. First founded in Ohio in 1980, the 1950s-style restaurant grew quickly, with about 100 locations at its peak. For the reclamation of the neighborhood proved to have a spiritual component as well. I think it and she was gone by 1975 or 76. (I hope this continues . loved chariivari but those prices! And the bakery that was on 72nd between Bway and West End. In the photo, the corner shop on 73rd was an upholstery shop, and aside from the (not so good) pizza shop, I cant remember any other store on that side of the street as being memorable. We came to wonder if New York was a place that stunted human possibility instead of expanding it.. I was born and raised on same block, in same building since 1969. I dont understand the folks who insist the 70s werent terrible. An article on the front page of the New York Times on July 6, 1961, reported: Street fighting involving 400 Puerto Ricans and Negroes broke out in a West Side trouble block. Two women began arguing over a man, and a brawl erupted. The tacos are supplemented with other obvious sports bar snacks, including corn on the cob, guac and chips, flautas, plus burritos, quesadillas, and tortas. I won a Halloween story writing contest at Eeyores ($25 gift certificate) and was a delivery boy for Video Connection. On that very block in 1972 (probably two years before my mugging), a 10-year-old boy named Jimmy Wallace was found in the hallway of his apartment house with stab wounds in his back and neck. By 1990, there were 5,641 felonies. A fine and forgotten 1975 book by Barbara Gelb called On the Track of Murder it reads like a nonfiction version of Ed McBain's glorious 49-year series of police procedurals about the 87thPrecinct, a lightly disguised version of the real-life 24th Precinct on the Upper West Sidetells the story of the homicide squad formed to catch Charlie 85th St.; 212- 877-0961. He struck on 106th between Broadway and Amsterdam, a block from my building. Sometimes for the food. The streets of my childhood were dirtier, and the people who lived there were poorer but I played on the street all day unsupervised by adults and we were safe. What they will not have to learn, as my sisters and I and our wealthier friends did, is how to accommodate and make normal an ever-present sense of everyday menace. He struck on 104th and 103rd. The great surprise, perhaps, is that while it is no longer the home of the Jewish intelligentsiain part because the Jewish intelligentsia doesnt exist as it once didit is, if anything, even more distinctively and vibrantly Jewish. Via (Photo credit: Steven Siegel) A man wearing a placard on Times Square, around 1980. I remember Fowad with its racks on the corner of 96th st and a Mexican restaurant across the street with Spanish tile decorating its exterior. The whole thing about the terrible 1970s (and even 1980s) is vastly over-rated. the very chic chain that only was located on the UWS. The streets were full of prostitutes and Johns cruising for them. I remember The Jaunting Car Inn next to the Ritzs deli between 71 and 70th on Columbus. Hi Life Bar & Grill. I only have one photo taken on the street in the1970s but I do remember alot of the old stores. My current UWS apartment still has the footings in the floor where a Police Lock fit between the door and the floor. Use this guide to find all the best bars in the neighborhood. I so miss living there and am trying to now come back from CT where I moved to be closer to Yale for medical purposes. Rubell's maxim: "The key to a good party is filling a room . Does anyone remember, like i do, the little grocery store on the corner of 74th and Amsterdam, owned by Dom?wonderful man, full of stories and gossip about the neighborhoodwhen the subway fare went up in 74 or 75, he bought me a bag of tokens so that i wouldnt have to stand in line at the 72nd St. station that Monday morning when it went into effect and everyone had been caught unawareDom always looked out for his customersa real UWS personality. Good luck with your project and I would be happy to talk if you like. These are the moments, large and small, recounted by 36 writers, artists, fashion designers, musicians and more who. I grew up in. Life is rough on everyone. You dont even need to go to municipal archives. Pretty good ice cream place in the early 80s. Prohibition has live music every night, so its a good option for all kinds of situations, from first dates when you want to avoid awkward small talk to quick solo drinks when youre killing time. Email me if you want to answer some. But in 1972 and 1973, Charlie Chop-off had so little resonance beyond the blocks near me that when I made mention of it in a short story I read to my eighth-grade classin a school on the Upper West Sidemy classmates hadnt heard of it. We also went to the park alone which kids nowadays hardly ever do. Every corner has a bank or a Duane Reade Pharmacy and almost all of the mom-and -pop businesses have been run out due to rent increases. They have a bunch of beers on tap that you definitely wont find on the shelves at Whole Foods, and the dark space works well for a low-key drink with a couple friends. The space is about the size of a studio apartment, so we wouldnt recommend bringing a group, but its a decent place to watch sports alone or with a friend, especially before 7pm when drinks are half off. Where Fairway is there was DAgostinos, and a really good drug store, was it buy right or loves? Shakespeare and Co. followed suit a few years later due to the same pressure from Barnes and Noble. Things change. So my small city is the same and yet it is not the same, because it is today, in almost every way, better. 3) Back in the 80s, H & H Bagels (well known demise some years ago) had lines out the door, and nicer prices for their delicious bagels. My father was the first tenant of the building and moved in in 1929. UPPER WEST SIDE Upper West Siders have long known that if they want a good drink and a hopping nightlife scene free of college students and sports bars, they'd have to head below 59th. I lived on 82 btw Columbus and CPW from 1976-2011. To the commentersemail me if you would like to answer a few questions for the thesis. I grew up Loved growing up there. I am still amazed thinking how that now-pristine block was so different. The whole theater got kicked out of Lowes 84th on opening night for Friday The 13th: Jason Takes Manhattan, it was so rowdy, but Id been seeing movies there since it was the Lowes 83rd st, twin. It is the same one in which I grew up four decades ago, and its buildings and landmarks and topography are almost entirely unchanged. Plus, the long, all-French wine list has over 50 options available by the glass, and you can even try things in flights of three or five glasses. Have a romantic date at the Arthouse Bar. Homeless? UPPER WEST SIDE, NY An Upper West Side joint was just named among the best sports bars in New York City. Sure there were some muggings (mostly stealing our bus passes) but nothing serious. I came to NYC for the first time in 1979. Jacobs Pickles is great if you need an Upper West Side brunch spot or dinner meetup with someone you know will embrace the heavy bar food. I live on W 71 myself. 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