Lmaoand excellent thought below about the 454 brass trimmed down. I am reminded of a survival show that aired a few years ago. What did you have I asked, he said he had a .454 Casull in a shoulder harness. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. I recently read the account of a man in Oregon who survived a black bear attack. can a 38 special kill a mountain lionohio state income tax. Had that sow felt threatened, I wouldnt have known what hit me. Look it up. Owing to circumstances at their place, I wasnt able to go. Curiosity got the better of them, and they managed to discharge the canisters in their hotel room that night. In the early hours of 25 November 2016, the day after . the vast majority of industry gun writers are basically shilling new gear and tend to exist in a repetitive echo chamber with little or no practical experience. Next Capable yet not-overpowered, accurate and easy-to-control except in aluminum framed 2" snubnose versions, it remains a solid choice for discrete carry and pleasure shooting days at the local target range. Nobody sane confronts a bear with a pistol, the 480 is not perfect for the job. Also the .454 C uses a rifle primer to handle the high pressure generated whereas the 45 Colt uses a pistol primer. I live in Alaska and Ive turned a Glock 21 into a 460 Rowland. That was my initial question as well. Recoil is managable and porting helps, not like 454 casull or 460 mag, no, let me guess 500 s&w is the only option, the first pistol to come with wheels! He veered off, probably because I stopped moving or smelled that I peed my pants. Told me to that towards evening they made Camp during Daylight Hours. Now that is change of Biblical proportions. If one only goes out when and where a mild breeze at most is at their back on a sunny day.. Well you get my drift. Thanx! You cant load the right ammo for bear defense, but its better than a sharp stick. fresh kill 1994 watch online. The .45 Colt (L) and .454 Casull (R). Option to use 45 colt 454 cas and 460 mag. Mountain lions are very dangerous animals that are capable of killing creatures larger than themselves. Jim Farmer It has been updated through June of 2017. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. Although the species is protected, landowners can request a special permit to catch or kill a mountain lion if it has killed livestock and caused damage. It will drive a 300-grain bullet to over 1,600 fps. Not a chance will I ever take those with me here in Alaska, other than around town where bear issues are far more unlikely. Practice with light loads and carry it with one of Pearces 22k psi heavy loads. The group was less than four inches and the ammo was full-power Winchester factory loads so it was full recoil. For what its worth, bear spray is likely to get you killed in my humble opinion. Mountain lions are normally very secretive and cautious. I recommended getting a .357 Magnum or a larger caliber. The Mountain Lion will return to feed on the prey for up to 10 days. Back in Most of the revolvers mentioned in this article are double action. They are thin skinned and with a broadside shot would drop it like a rock, with one shot. Then it rolled over and started walking. No, probably not, but I would feel much better with this gun its easily concealable, doesnt weigh a whole lot, nor take up a lot of room than with no gun at all. The capsaicin in the bear spray will act as an irritant and will likely make the animal retreat. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. I carry a 10 round 9mm when bow and black powder hunting in Black Bear country. More than half of those were fawns. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. An interesting side note is that after a bear has been skinned and hung up, if you come upon the scene unexpectedly you would think that you are looking at a dead man. The lion did not attack further and the boys uncle shot at the cat. had the game warden not had his .357 Magnum holstered on his person the Grizzly thank you kindly for sharing your extensive knowlege and guidance.I would be interested in your opinion of Underwood extreme penetrator cartridge 44 mag or 45 lc as to changing the attitude of a not well intentioned any bear . You should also use common sense when traversing through these areas by avoiding mannerisms that could be interpreted by a bear that youre easy prey. Mountain lions can kill adult humans along with large mammals. Look it up. Pretty cool! If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. I shoot a 44 mag Ruger Redhawk 4 in ss I love it. Its very light and handy to carry. delivered him from a mortal fate. If I cant do it with that then I guess I was destined to lose that fight. In most cases, a 22 caliber rifle will not be able to kill a mountain lion. I dont think it is funny to not mention bear spray. There is a lot of nonsense out on the internet from people who have never seen a bear and have probably never cut up a dead critter to see what a bullet will do. Under normal circumstances, the lion would have returned to eat the prey. I dont recall if it ran on Discovery, National Geographic or The History Channel. I hope that you had a good camera and a long lens to shoot it. For the outdoors person a revolver can likewise Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. From the Noatak to Frazier Lake, Kodiak, Ive seen a lot of bears. I looked at my knife on my hip and quickly decided thst wouldnt work. Federal, Yes and no.. Phil has over three decades of experience guiding hunters and fishermen, and understands their habits as well as anyone else alive. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge. hard cast projectile @ 1,300+ fps. There are a lot of good things to be said about a shotgun and big buckshot in regard to saving ones own life! Id have gladly traded it for a snub-nose .38 Special. Killed a mountain Grizzly but did not get my polar bear. 7.6225 Red Army Standard 86gr. There is a term for that. None of the planned gun laws have any impact on bolt-action rifles as far as I'm aware (except perhaps limiting magazine capacity if it has one), and to be extra safe you could get a bolt-action rifle without a detachable magazine. Your 9mm, .38 spl. I am a handgun hunter who lives in Wyoming and hunts the Beartooth. from the bear. The species are abundant in the state, numbering around 4,000 to 6,000 estimated creatures. coastal brown bear looks like at a distance of 50-75 feet! In this case, the mountain lion was found to have rabies. It doesnt kick as much as my .44 Rem Mag in a JP Sauer six-shooter that I used to carry on remote gold mining operations, and in a M&P Shield and Glock 21, it also serves as my concealed carry. These lions belong there. Trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions. Rain, Wind, Snow all those things can and will reduce the effectiveness of Bear Spray much more than they would affect the employment of a firearm. The SW 460 mag xvr is the best choice in my opinion. You can also use a hunting rifle or pistol to fire at the lion if it makes a charge at you. Expert trackers look for the following to identify mountain lion tracks: Three lobes at the bottom of the pad. It seems to be a matter of carrying largest caliber you can for the situation, with the proviso that you be able to deliver sufficient rounds on target. This attack from 2008 shows the utility of a handgun for defense against predators in the wild. A good read but I dont really see the top handguns to carry. Take it from someone who has been nose to nose with many big bears by accident if youre going into bear country willingly take as big a double action revolver as you can keep all rounds in the target black. They are considered important in maintaining ecosystems and controlling other animal populations such as deer, its preferred prey. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. My hunting partner puts his faith in the Colt .45, and it will get the job done. Equipped with piano wire springs, the wisely designed transfer bar and adjustable sights, I am very confident with this pistol in hand. But also a few manufacturers that load plus P 45 Colt rounds that are every bit as powerful as the 44 magnum. A mountain lion was killed in the Santa Monica Mountains, becoming the first killed under the state's depredation law, a National . God Bless old Friend. And maybe just maybe you walk away on the top side of the ground. Dont immediately dismiss bear spray from consideration. First shot went wild as the bear clamped down on his forearm and shook him. I also recommend if youre down to your last round and the bear is still coming, use the last round on yourself. The Smith & Wesson 329 PD is by far the best handgun choice for self-defense against bears and boars while out and about in the woods. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. No semi-auto makes the grade except perhaps the .50 AE, but most ammo for that fails due to bullets. Their saliva or blood can kill you even after the animal itself is already dead. Between travel & the country this gun was never more than arms reach away all that time!! When the smoke cleared the bear was on its back waving its legs. The farmer who owned the lambs also contacted a trapper in hopes that they could do something about the mountain lion. My other handgun, my day-to-day gun, is a well-worn Smith & Wesson Model 36, in .38 Special. The photos are nice, but all the ammo photos are of hollow points, and I have substantial doubts about the value of hollow points against bears, especially grizzlies. For the most part, good info. And ditto even for herbivorous who often destroy and damage crops. Live in Alaska. to a .22 or .32 the .38 Special 148 grain lead target wad-cutter is ideal for these purposes. My gun likes the Hornady XTPs best, and I feel confident making vital hits out to 40 yards or so with this combination. next fly out someplace and sleep in a tent than write something that means something. Caliber: 357 or better. Tracy Ross 3:00 AM MST on Jan 1, 2023. Mag seemed the best choice, at 100 yds a 375 H&H appeared even better, and at 25 feet a 155 mm didnt seem large enough! COME AND GET IT! Shot placement . The yellow color was striking. Although, for me, the closest I want to get to a rattler is a 44 mag snake load, preferably my Judge in .410 7 shot. The Hornady 325gr Leverevolution is a whole different story. Not back in the camper because its too heavy or bulky. Jaguars range in size from about 100lbs up to 300lbs, run at speeds of 50 mph, and bite with a bone-crushing 1,500 PSI. This account from the Camp Verde Bugle, also says there were two shots. More is always better and the bullet is the key. Mountain lion attacks on humans, however, are rare in Colorado, with Colorado Parks and Wildlife counting fewer than 20 over the past 30 years. A perfect shot to the brain may stop a griz or black bear with a smaller caliber but you cant count on a perfect shot every time. I have a buddy who guided a hunter with a .50 AE to a brown in the late eighties when it came out and it was a disaster. I heard that some hikers on Mt. tell me want have you really killed lately. You arent arent going to get to reload and the targets are moving really fast. Rifle first if at all possible. Derek Wolfe told Tucker Carlson he plans to eat the mountain lion he hunted. 9. Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. I some what agree. Excellent article! I was hunting in Alaska well before most of your parents even drew a breath. I believe that folks who do their own reloading can increase the powder and velocity of this caliber, but I am reluctant to try the beefed up bullets in a Scandium or polymer framed weapon. 4 5/8 inch barrelpretty comfortable to carry . Im not against revolvers. The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. Lightweight and well-balanced, I had a chance to spend a bit of time with this wheelgun at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas. It provides some seemingly good info, but some is just confusing and troublesome. I shot a 1000+ lb. Definitely not in the same category as a Mounain lion. thanx again. In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). into camp look for a meal in the ice chest. Not only is a 45 Colt that is hand loaded right there with the 44 magnum, or even out performing the 44 magnum. 50 round box should last a lifetime. Flat shooting gun with a lifetime warranty. Crossdraw holster. Feature Articles, Just no big name in the periodicals. LAR Grizzly 45 Win Mag. There were teams of men racing across Alaska. Personally, I do my best to avoid any encounter that could turn ugly, but thats not always the case. Regarding your story about the two men from California who discharged bear spray in their hotel room in their haste to try it out forcing the hotel to gut and refinish the room entirely, of course after evicting the two Californians. . Mountain Lion Attack Stopped by Man with Handgun in 2010, Teenager Sexually Assaults Friends Mom, Gets Rejected at Gunpoint, TTAG Daily Digest: Actually Shooting Someone, Ratings Kryptonite and the NRA in the Time of Trump. I dont plan to go out in the woods or scrubs any more but the S&W 629 with a 8 & 3/8 barrel Ive owned for 25 years will serve me well against black bears or hogzillas here in sunny Florida should the need arise. Lets get my own choices out of the way first. According to CPW, Colorado is home to between 3,000 and 7,000 mountain lions. I do reload them hot. The animal became a little wobbly and went to a tree then moved toward Paul again and it was shot a second time. The +P shoots a bit higher than the standard 44mag rounds. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . Lets hope that we can all avoid the threat of mauling, but if youre unfortunate enough to have it happen to you, be prepared. My colleague and friend Bryce Towsley (brycetowsley.com) is a veteran gun writer who has considerable experience with bears of all sorts. Department spokesperson Peter Tira told LA Times: "It's been a day-to-day, hourly kind of situation. It is all filled with a bias against firearms.. This is why I prefer my .460 Roland it has compensator for better follow on second shot. Full power 10mm anyone? If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. The 7 -inch barrel makes for a bit more cumbersome handgun, but the author feels the accuracy is well worth it. The first dozen rounds I shot were without gloves and I got a severe cut on my support hand thumb! The 30-50 yd accuracy is simple.AMAZING SHOT PLACEMENT WITH POWER. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. Of course, I dont live in Alaska, nor have I ever killed a bear. Its jackass. An attack by a pack of feral dogs is not anything like an encounter with a single individual or a shooting competition. A revolver is a one threat gun so unless you are Jerry Miculek you will run out of ammo with a revolver. Now he is a sports talk radio host for 104.3 the Fan . Always do your homework before entering any unfamiliar land, especially bear infested areas so you will be acquainted with these and other survival techniques including escape routes should you encounter an emergency situation. It was the first handgun I ever purchased.. Their large hind legs also make them excellent at sprinting for short distances. I enjoyed the article. The 4-3-1 rule is a good rule of thumb, however, I agree with the comments about a 10mm. I carefully googled this story using the locationImpossible to find any story that confirms that what you said id true. I have a Springsfield 460 Rowland and 400 CarBon for bears and back cup with 357 Mag in a Tarus 7 shoot to stop any bear. Do I want to use one as my sidearm? I live in Alaska. The recoil is quite severe for all of these loads and I cant imagine wanting or needing to go to the 460 Rowland! I know there are some folks out there that carry handguns in the bush, but in a dozen years I didnt meet many, either agency folks or sportsmen. The mountain lion, also called a cougar, is the largest wildcat in North America north of Mexico. If I find it I will post it. and I usually see a grizzly when I hunt almost within sight of Cody Wy. Browning on your sail boat, that will keep you happy ! But these loads would likely destroy an old Peacemaker, or other similar guns. I shot that bear in the mouth without breaking a tooth on him cause he was popping his jaws whilst standing on his back legs trying to get thru the fence. They were relocating a Grizzly to a remote wilderness area. I wasnt sure if the .357 was really optimal for bear spanking as my father, a hunter and 23 year US Army Combat Veteran would say and couldnt bring myself to splurge on either 10mm or something in the .44 magnum ranges. A rabid animal is something you do not even want to touch. A mountain lion killed some goats about a half mile from us. Any suggestion that a 9mm or 357 magnum is any gun better than none in brown bear country is ridiculous. That being said I would never recommend a .22 for bear protection or hunting. But 9MM hollow points will kill anything in Texas short of a feral hog. I . Not being a cougar hunter, didnt pay much attention to it. Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . Oct. 14, 2020 6:15 PM PT. If you get to take a shot while standing, you should be making an effort to evade an attack while at the ready. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! Scientific Evidence regarding bear spray?.. I asked what type of Rifle he carried. I am 80 years old remember my dad had a meat market . Before any bear country hunt I practice with it a lot. He is a hard-core gun guy and he agrees with me on cartridges, guns and bullets. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. The Freedom Arms Model 83, in .454 Casull, in a serious piece of gear. Question whats your life worth to you. Buffalo bore ammo is available, very hard hitting and lethal. They dont respond the same way as healthy animals. Couple Im friends with have a vacation home in NW Montana(we all live in So. I found it on the Internet in a read only document. All silliness aside, this illustrates a challenge for a woods gun. A starting load of 3.9 grains was decided on, and the first rounds were loaded up. Shot 3 whitetail doe in the noodle with that rifle, and it wasn,t graphic. My new Ruger Super Blackhawk can handle hot + P 45 colt loads. Sun, Jan 29, 2023. . The spent shell casings can end up lost in the grass, sagebrush, bushes, woods, No thanks. The most significant differences between a jaguar and a mountain lion are their size, speed, and bite force. white-tailed deer Mountain lions are a protected species in California. Brutal to shoot, but effective. Young cubs are emerging for the first time, and mothers are ultra-protective. I carry my Ruger SP101 357 on me always, and when camping, I have my 45-70 close by. I believe he used a 9mm. Plenty of good options in DA revolvers tried and true .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, etc. If you put a 6.25 inch barrel on the glock 20 it is very capable of stopping most large animals. I am playing with a m69 Smith and Wesson 44 mag. 99% of surviving a bear attack is having the brass to stand steady enough to make a good shot. Hopefully, this link will work. Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. If a domestic animal (pet/livestock) is injured or killed by a mountain lion, the owner has the legal right in California to have the mountain lion killed. Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. The BFR 45-70 was not mentioned. Will a 9mm or 38 spl kill a bear? The bfr is very easy shooting postal and extremely accurate. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. Mace or a .45 Colt? I saw a beautiful Blond one in Glacier Natl Park a couple of years ago. My Glock 10 mm w/ 15 + 1,in most likely you sleep in your rig also. I am from Houston, TX. counter-shrunk chambers, and original factory Goncalo Alves target grips. After all bears are quite well armed are they not? The key is putting the projectile in the right spot. This would include insanely lar. They only work if you have them with you. thanks again from a Liberal Gun Toting Okie! 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