Cheers. This was purchased in July 2013 and this is the first time I clicked it up a notch to get a warmer water temp and now it stops working! Something a major of an appliance like this cant barely go a year without working. You will now need to restart the Pilot as before. Get a contractor model. After spending a day shopping for a replacement nowhere to be found for same day repair, and after 2 freezing cold morning showers, I followed DBs instructions and voila! Worked like a charm! $49.89. Thanks so much. Can a control valve partially fail like this? Cheers. I called my father-in-law and told him about it, he is a plumber and replaces this kind of valves all the time but he said he has never seen one that flashes any codes other than normal right out of the box Go figure!!! I tried a few things and finally did a pilot light start up with everything attached, took the front cover of the module off with the lights blinking X4, the pilot went out and the blinking stopped. I took the circuit board completely out of the unit and let it sit for about an hour. Apparently that is the keykeep it clean!!! DONT BUY THEM. Another comment when I finally got a replacement from Amazon, the LED light was White in color, not RED as my last two. An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. Charles, )and insert the circuit board back onto the 3 Valve body pins as it normally would be (circuit components showing) without the cover attached. Only the technically adept or handy should do attempt this. My Whirlpool gas water heater is giving me the dreaded four blinks signal. After less than 4 yrs of having the Whirlpool water heater, I got 4 flashes. I have NEVER had a thermostat unit fail in 35 years of owning houses. Thank you all for helping out the FIY. Clearly the valve controller is mis-designed. I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). Plus the cost of the above repairs. Removed the old cover and board and replaced it with the new one. Most others had it for from $200.00. I re installed it and got the 7 flashes instead of the four flashes. This is a BRAND NEW Honeywell Gas Water Heater Control Valve. Note that sometimes it can be hard to get the valve closed completely if this was the first time and you had never done it before in years of use. Went back to buy a new thermostat. I too thought no big deal to turn my water heater up ONE NOTCH!!! Add Sears to Lowes of where not to buy a product.heres, what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. Mwa-ha-ha-ha! Air PRO Air Security PRO Security Water PRO Water Energy PRO Energy Partner with Resideo Pro Perks While you have the old valve out, be sure to probe inside to see if you have gunk/sediment and/or crystals/salts. Some designers use whats called a super cap instead of a battery to preserve data for short periods of time. But- I havent tried it so go with this method. Much obliged. I just duplicated the steps that Charles on 29 July, 2014 took. This tank was flushed six months ago to install the current control valve. I told her I would, but more I think about it, F that! The seven blink disappeared shortly after that. The combo of using the battery trick as well as just running wires from the posts rather than unscrewing the module worked perfectly. great write up, but I cant find this part anywhere. I am calling the plumber who installed it. In the meantime I figured the shutoff valve to the WH was not working then started to leak! Check closely to see if you have a spark. This will supply current to the main valve and the main valve will open. The Water heater will appear to be working now, but in a several seconds it will figure out that something is wrong, and it will shutdown the pilot valve and the fire will shut off. Also, the white light version has NO COM connector. Something to consider. Should I bootstrap the thing by supplying my own voltage of 750mv and try David Boones most excellent fault reset procedure? Will keep this for next year when it breaks again. I just ran enough hot water out to get it to call for heat again and it lit fine on its own. Both times there was VERY LITTLE sludge in the bottom of the water heater. I speculate its because Honeywell sells a lot more gas valves this way. Thank you sooomuch and my daughter thanks you, hot water is a must for her. I took the battery idea and did a minor mod. The two wires to the controller on the bottom right are the two leads to the thermocouple which provides power to the controller and also senses when the pilot is lit. Many, many thanks for the previous posters comments that led to this fairly simple fix. In this case relight the pilot and try again. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. Get it from e-bay, just look at picture to make sure it only has red & white wires to the right and NOwire to left side under COM.. Got the same 4 blinking lights Saturday . The led light will go off and the pilot will shut off as well. It is interesting to note that the water remained lukewarm with just the pilot lit over the past several days. I removed the circuit board as you expanded. Honeywell and Sears/Home Depot/etc. New controller on the way but hot water is now flowing. I did call Whirlpool and told them that the new valve they sent was broken and they did send another replacement free overnight. 37 sold. (For me it was the the inlet gas pipe on the valve.) Some points to consider: 1. Ive had my Rheem 7 months . BTW To those who are confused about the poststhey are not on the circuit board or between the board & cover. Page bookmarked! A day or so after install, I did raise the temp just a tad to 130. Tried removing the cover, unplugging 3 wire plug, and then lighting pilot again. After reading all these comments I thought I would give it a shot. Resetting the #$%@!! After spending 51 minutes with Sears customer non-service the problem was resolved within 20 minutes following Davids instructions. Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! I cleaned burner and vents as well. So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Checked the wiring. I know I did this while trying to figure out why no hot water. Twist the phone wires together, the burner lit for about 20 seconds then shut off. It lights easily, but wont stay lit. Speaker wire. I have a water heater that is 18 months old and Im already repairing it? Ive been keeping an eye on the heater ever since installing, so I was able to notice this. 3: Snap the cover back onto the heater (so you can light the pilot-light). Days Later after reading further I turned the main gas off, and removed the gas valve and the Torx security screws ( that have a pin to prevent regular Torx from entering the screw head). like this http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E. 4:Follow directions to lite the pilot-light. Took a wire and touched the two pins where the thermo plugs in. Thanks again to all. I was wondering if anyone knew if this part is replaceable? Everything is good. That SHOULD simply cause the heat source to have to stay on longer to heat water, not get the water too hot; 3. The water heater wouldnt re-light, but I noticed that the indicator was blinking four times in succession. The two wires (red/white) pluged to the honeywell box front rightside, power the box, make sure the wires are not loose, refer to diagram, mine were loose had to reattach with tiny plyers. Free 4 day shipping. This is the second time mine has gone out in 27 months. Oh well, hope your post saves people a lot of time and frustration. Anyways DBs method DOES WORK! heres what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. : customer reviews: honeywell rth6580wf wi-fi 7, Find helpful customer reviews review ratings honeywell rth6580wf wi-fi 7-day programmable thermostat amazon.. read honest unbiased product reviews. Do not loose the spring under it! (day job of electrical engineer). My warrantied part is being overnighted. I had to do it 2 times, but it is now making hot water again. reattach the front cover with the wires still unplugged and light your pilot. Thanks that was a big help and a $$ saver. Bam! The cover is still attached to the back of the unit by a colorful ribbon of wires, with a plug at the end that connects to the circuit board. I was told that you can use the yellow teflon and sealant for gas and water, but the water products do not work on gas. I have the exact electronic gas valve unit on my Whirlpool water heater I purchased 3 years ago. I didnt want the sealant to contaminate my water. They said they couldnt do anything about that. Although the part is covered under warranty, they will not just send a replacement. Wife took the 10 dollar shipping. The WT8840 water heater control from Resideo is designed for use in standing pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. HELP, what step to go. It is sad to see big companies are not really care about the quality and safety of the consumers. Resetting the #$%@!! First, the Pilot has to be able to stay lit on its own and a fault blinks on the controller to continue. Piezo Dynamic Series Sirens Data Sheet, Honeywell Home, Resideo Security Americas The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. The single wire to the rectangular connector just on the left bottom side is the lead to the pilot ignitor so if thats taken off, please remember to re-attach it. New valve on the way from Whirlpool. Buy It Now. I had the local utility company come check it and the inlet pressure was right on the money. THANK YOU! So either the thermostat is faulty, or somehow theres something preventing heat transfer from the heating chamber and the water in the tank. Thanks! Is there any non-Honeywell valve that we can use in place of the Edsel we have now? And so the very thin wires (at point where wire became tinned or soldered) became brittle and had broken. After refitting the cover and lighting the pilot again, this resulted in the 7 flashes as mentioned in another post. The previous water-heater was never flushed in its 20 year life (the tank started leaking). Im assuming that the old board just completely died. It Is Designed For Use In Standing Pilot Applications Using An Immersion Well For Water Temperature Sensing. I followed the last paragraph instructions (what i did take off the cover.) and everything seems to be in working order again with one caveat: when I reattached the front cover with the 3-wire connector unplugged and lit the pilot, I got a 5-flash error (indicating that there was a sensor failure) rather than the 7-flash error. This will insure that the board will not be getting any electrostatic signals from the water heater. Picture:here, 4. In fact, not only have they not fixed the problem, some instructions I found online lead me to believe that they deliberately introduced this feature after the original design. You can now release the knob and the pilot should stay on. I did however, use the no battery option submitted by Cranky Tenants which is a little easier. save delay . Rotate the knob to 9 oclock to see if it will fire up on its own. Brilliant!!! When I put it back together, it still flashed 4 lights and only the pilot would light. Water Heater Gas Valve Replaces Honeywell Resideo WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 Furnace Heater Gas Valve Shut-off Slow Fast Opening Pilot Spark Hot Surface Ignition Repair Part . Slide the ribbon of wires out of the clip on the housing, and the front of the gas valve is free. How long does the pilot need to be held on for the thermopile to get to operational mode. Thanks in advance. I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 316910-000 316910-000 321166-000 100112336 & 9007884005 AO Smith AO Smith AO Smith WT8840B1500 2" insulation tank, 5" WC setting . I am deeply in the debt of David Boone and would offer to buy you lunch should we ever meet. They could not find that in their records. It refused to even start. Rey and the Magic Amulet is a fantasy for younger readers. Honeywell covered the replacement unit cost including shipping. CS8840 pilot assemblies are designed for use with this control. Thanks alot guys got mine up and running as well after taking the electronic crap out. I cant believe they sent me a dud. There is no pilot, it just ignites completely as needed with electronic ignitor. If you are getting 750 millivolts at the RED and WHITE connections, then I would think it is a dud. I have a red knob with green LED, and white cover. Jolie, even you can do this. Perhaps others with faulty valves may have begun their collapse in a similar fashion, but were not noticed until the hot water turned cold people dont usually babysit a water heater. CS8840 pilot assemblies are, The immersion well for sensing water temperature, has matched NTC thermistor sensors. This does require one special tool, pictured at left. I turned the knob to just the Hot setting and it fired up ! I read the included instructions to a T and had a successful replacement! On all of the occasions that this happened I was able to reignite the pilot and get the heater going again simply by turning the valve controller to off, waiting ten to fifteen minutes, and then re-lighting the pilot following normal instructions. Nothing on the shelf that looked like the Honeywell. The pilot light alone is keeping the solar water warm all night at about 120F. For two years I would drain out 5 gallons of water every two months to remove sediment. Shut off the pilot, remove the cover and reconnect the three wire connector to the circuit board. If the new valve is basically the same model as the old one, you dont need to pay a plumber to replace the evil valve. I even suspect there is a simpler method to do it than the one Ill now detail. I had a power outage at my house and coincidentally (?) The Whirlpool helpline says I have to replace the gas valve. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! The light went out. Now understand, Im a DIYer, but by no means am I a professional in plumbing, gas, electric or heating/cooling Im a computer guy that does home projects from time to time. Apparently the WV8840 valves designations are followed by a revision letter. They didnt ask any questions or ask for the old one to be returned. The light started the all is good single blink and the furnace fired up. I dis-assembled the cover and the circuit board, then tested the actual gas valve by itself using a AA battery and jumper wires (mentioned elsewhere above earlier) ( negative (-) to the bottom of V and positive to left upper pin of V. So I got no click (but supposed to get a click). Obviously weve all had our issues with the apparently worthless Honeywell controller. Thank goodness I found this site. So, I decided to let it sit overnight and that did the trick for me. An honorable mention here needs to go to Bob Robeson, who posted here as well, but it was his original post I found on waterheatertimer.org that set me onto a pathway of searching for another option after I was thoroughly disgusted with Sears/Kenmore Service, which would be more accurately described as Sales based on their approach to my concern. UPDATE: David Boones method worked great for me, exactly as described. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. Those two must also be connected which ever method is selected to correct the problem. Bioluminescent Reindeer and the Value of Diversity. step by step please for dummies. Hogwash!! Got 7 blinking lights burner came on and back to 1 blinking light. I, too, experienced the dreaded 4-flash-of-death failure after about 8 months of use, was given the replacement valve, did the complete flush of the tank only to discover no sediment issues and, as with most of the rest of you, received a valve with a different color indicator light. Whenthisbabyhits88mphYourgonnaseesomeseriousShit, http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14153292543/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14129889951/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946540277/, http://hometips.me/Mar/How-to-test-and-replace-Honeywell-gas-control-valve.pdf, https://www.flickr.com/photos/86570218@N06/17486404251, Home Tips: How Do I Remove A Stubborn Element From A Water Heater?.

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